A final comment in this four-part exchange with A Bruce and R Beuthin addresses several inaccuracies and problematic omissions in their 'Response to Lyon: Oranges, apples and polarizing polemic.' I point out that court rulings mean that it is likely some form of assisted suicide or euthanasia (Medical Assistance in Dying or MAID) remains lawful in Canada, and I argue from this view. I further suggest that scholars writing about MAID clinicians' lived experiences must be transparent about their involvement in the practice to conform to methodological and ethical standards. Finally, I stress that the intense emotional rewards obtained by providers from ending lives may be horrifying to observers and those potentially eligible for MAID, and must be open to critical scrutiny.