CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Optometrists should look to take every opportunity to expand their knowledge, understanding and skills pertaining to vitreoretinal conditions. BACKGROUND: Despite the existence of acute eye care schemes and the up-skilling of optometrists, many units are still noticing large numbers of poor-quality referrals with high false positive rates. The authors pondered whether these schemes are effective. METHODS: At two different time points, a prospective analysis of patients took place, of all the flashing lights and floaters referrals coming into secondary care at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital, Wales, UK. The following data was captured: the exact source of the primary care referral, the diagnosis being queried, the secondary care diagnoses made and the secondary care management decisions. The accuracy of retinal break and Shafer's sign detection were also directly compared between primary care and secondary care using Cohen's Kappa Coefficient. RESULTS: For the 2018 period, CONCLUSION: A high number of false positive referrals are coming into secondary care from the WECS pathway and clear training and education needs have been identified.